Re: test rig first cut (list discussion, practice etc)

[Remco Treffkorn <remco@rvt.com>]

On Thursday 10 July 2003 01:04, Ethan Benson wrote:
> use list-reply to make this easy, if your MUA doesn't have list-reply,
> it sucks, get a new one that does, like mutt.  or else don't complain
> to me that its hard, complain to the author of your MUA.
>

I am not complainig to anybody. I happen to like my MUA. I learn to work 
around 'imperfections'. It might take me a day or two.

>
> 2) since you obviously have more time then me, please put a bit more
> time into fully reading my post before replying, regarding the below i
> answered that question AT least 6 times (most were in private, see
> above).  i don't have time to repeat myself.
>

I MAKE more time for this than you. My day has the same 24 hours yours has.I 
decided to jump into this full blast, and learn as much as I can from you in 
as short a time as possible. You are the obvious victim for brain picking. 
Look at it as an investment, and hope for a good return.

> now Remco, you need to keep in mind that i have been putting a great
> deal of thought into the design of prom-libc and yaboot 2 for a LONG
> time (well over a year), i also have more experience and knowledge of
> how the firmware operates, and what it provides us (by all your
> admission).  so with all due respect remember it is my project, and
> that means im going to guide the design direction, i AM open to
> changes in direction from what ive posted and described, but you NEED
> to fully describe your proposals in detail, and most importantly GOOD
> rationals.  you can't just go and `decide' that things are going to be
> done differently and then start tossing code around with that
> assumption, it won't go far with me.  some of your assumptions of
> design change simply won't work in practice, which is why you need to
> actually PROPOSE a change before assuming thats how it will be.
>

Eathan, I have asked questions. If some of the answers are obvious to you, 
well, in light of your history, that is kind of obvious...

> and importantly such proposals need to happen here so the others can
> participate in the discussion.  (see 1)
>

I have not made any proposals yet. I have described how I think things ARE. I 
may very well be wrong about some aspects. That's when you start teaching...
I need to fully understand the status quo, and I need to understand where you 
want to go from here. If there is a yaboot2 white paper, that would be a good 
start. As it is, you seem to be the single source of information.

> 3) im not in a good mood at all this week, nothing to do with this
> project or any of you, so don't take my terse attitude in a personal
> or insulting way, nor as a indication of lack of appreciation for the
> help, without the help it will take years for me to complete this
> project, with help i think it could be done by next year.  but again
> its just going to slow things down if i have to talk past you over and
> over again, so please try a little harder to read and understand my
> replies and then post well reasoned responses.
>

If I just pissed you of that much in the space of a few days, just imagine 
what I can do in a month!

You are just lucky that I am notoriously in a good mood :-)

None of that fixes the varargs stuff, of course. Somebody with ppc assembly 
experience could nip this one inside of twenty minutes. Any takers?

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